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Geoff Hastings
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Inlet manifold insulator

Post by Geoff Hastings » Tue Aug 29, 2017 2:52 pm

I've just been investigating the general lack of get up and with my CA77 and found the inlet insulator is too small, it does not cover the o-ring properly. I looked at a couple on eBay and they have a semi circular groove, does anyone know the purpose of this groove?
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Re: Inlet manifold insulator

Post by LOUD MOUSE » Tue Aug 29, 2017 4:57 pm

Not to ponder what and why.
You need to get the spacer made by HONDA for that DREAM engine and go from there. .............lm
Geoff Hastings wrote:I've just been investigating the general lack of get up and with my CA77 and found the inlet insulator is too small, it does not cover the o-ring properly. I looked at a couple on eBay and they have a semi circular groove, does anyone know the purpose of this groove?

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Re: Inlet manifold insulator

Post by Geoff Hastings » Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:05 pm

LOUD MOUSE wrote:Not to ponder what and why.
You need to get the spacer made by HONDA for that DREAM engine and go from there. .............lm
Geoff Hastings wrote:I've just been investigating the general lack of get up and with my CA77 and found the inlet insulator is too small, it does not cover the o-ring properly. I looked at a couple on eBay and they have a semi circular groove, does anyone know the purpose of this groove?
I appreciate the sentiment but the only original ones I've seen are in the states at about £30 including postage so thought a generic fibre insulator of the same dimensions for £5 would be preferable. Also, I do like to know why particular design is used.

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Post by Nick » Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:46 am

Whatever insulator you end up using, better check it for flatness. Had mine off a while back and discovered that it was warped.
Do what you've always done and you'll get what you've always had.

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Carb insulator

Post by Geoff Hastings » Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:56 am

Nick wrote:Whatever insulator you end up using, better check it for flatness. Had mine off a while back and discovered that it was warped.
Thanks Nick, always worth checking including the carb flange for distortion. I've had a closer look at the pictures on eBay and it would appear that there is also a tiny hole drilled in the insulator, does this hole connect to the semi circular groove?

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Re: Carb insulator

Post by G-Man » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:40 am

You really need to get the correct part for your carb if you want it to run correctly. The differences probably affect only the slow running circuit.

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Geoff Hastings wrote:
Nick wrote:Whatever insulator you end up using, better check it for flatness. Had mine off a while back and discovered that it was warped.
Thanks Nick, always worth checking including the carb flange for distortion. I've had a closer look at the pictures on eBay and it would appear that there is also a tiny hole drilled in the insulator, does this hole connect to the semi circular groove?
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Re: Inlet manifold insulator

Post by LOUD MOUSE » Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:01 am

I supose I misunderstood what you needed.
If it's to much money to get the proper part then why not just bolt the carb direct to the head!. .............lm

Geoff Hastings wrote:
LOUD MOUSE wrote:Not to ponder what and why.
You need to get the spacer made by HONDA for that DREAM engine and go from there. .............lm
Geoff Hastings wrote:I've just been investigating the general lack of get up and with my CA77 and found the inlet insulator is too small, it does not cover the o-ring properly. I looked at a couple on eBay and they have a semi circular groove, does anyone know the purpose of this groove?
I appreciate the sentiment but the only original ones I've seen are in the states at about £30 including postage so thought a generic fibre insulator of the same dimensions for £5 would be preferable. Also, I do like to know why particular design is used.

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