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elektronik-sachse Digital Ignition /Charlies Place Ignition

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elektronik-sachse Digital Ignition /Charlies Place Ignition

Post by CYCLEGUY1800 » Sun Jan 24, 2016 3:28 pm

Anyone installed either of these electronic igntion units on a CL77 Scrambler ? The Sachse is crank fired with electronic advance with a black box and the Charlies place takes the place of the points / plate on the head and uses the stock spark advancer with no black box , the Sachse unit is more money and has to imported from Germany and the Chalies place is available right away from California . Both units require proper voltage regulation from the charging system as my 1966 CL77 has only a rectifier. Decisions , Decisions .

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Post by G-Man » Sun Jan 24, 2016 4:41 pm

To quote one of my friends who raced these bike for a long period "The advance-retard unit in the moddle of the head is the worst part of the Honda ignition system".......

You pays yer money and makes yer choice...... :-)

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Re: elektronik-sachse Digital Ignition /Charlies Place Igni

Post by LOUD MOUSE » Sun Jan 24, 2016 8:51 pm

The probe system as sold today works well as long as the points cam springs are correct.
I've installed several and all worked well. ...................lm
CYCLEGUY1800 wrote:Anyone installed either of these electronic igntion units on a CL77 Scrambler ? The Sachse is crank fired with electronic advance with a black box and the Charlies place takes the place of the points / plate on the head and uses the stock spark advancer with no black box , the Sachse unit is more money and has to imported from Germany and the Chalies place is available right away from California . Both units require proper voltage regulation from the charging system as my 1966 CL77 has only a rectifier. Decisions , Decisions .

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Post by pdaly » Tue Feb 16, 2016 1:22 am

What about the regulator? Are there any specs on that, other than for a 12 volt system?

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Post by LOUD MOUSE » Tue Feb 16, 2016 5:32 am

Unfortunately the PROBE System is no longer being sold.
It needed 12 volt and no special regulator. ..................................lm
pdaly wrote:What about the regulator? Are there any specs on that, other than for a 12 volt system?

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Post by SMBH » Tue Feb 16, 2016 11:17 am

I have the Charlies place installed on my 1964 CB77 with no problems first time starting every time, I do not do a lot of miles so the new advance and retared I have fitted in the centre of the camshaft is unlikly to wear in my life time.

I do not like point's so fit and forget with a electronic set up you cannot loose but keep your points set up for you may need to put it back to STD when you sell the bike.

You say Charlies is on your door step I know what I would choose.

Like GMan say it's up to you and how you use your bike.

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Post by jensey » Tue Feb 16, 2016 12:39 pm

Yes, Sachse it is, on my CB72 and my CB450 K2. Living in the Netherlands, neighbour of Germany.
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