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IVD... Ion Vapor Deposition... refinishing metal parts...

rzgkane
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IVD... Ion Vapor Deposition... refinishing metal parts...

Post by rzgkane » Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:29 pm

Last week I told everyone that I had a friend with access to free IVD coating for metal parts. I had no idea, until recently, what IVD even was. From what I've been told it is a process wherein aluminum is applied over other metals and its primary purpose so far has been in aerospace applications.

Well, below are the results and it appears to be a very close match to the Honda paint that was applied new, but probably with much better longevity. You can't tell from the pics but the finish is a very slippery one, almost like teflon in a no stick pan. I did both crankcase covers, the carb clamshells, the valve cover caps, the starter sprocket and tail covers all in IVD and I'm happy with the results. For what it's worth.

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Post by houseowax » Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:37 pm

That looks fantastic! Any idea what that'd cost if one was to, say, not have a friend with access to free IVD coating?

Were your cases/covers etc in great shape to start, or did you prep them? What would one do about scratches, scuffs and gouges?

Congratulations- if that's anywhere near as durable as it sounds I think that's the best solution out there.
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Post by rzgkane » Fri Sep 28, 2012 3:03 pm

houseowax wrote:That looks fantastic! Any idea what that'd cost if one was to, say, not have a friend with access to free IVD coating?

Were your cases/covers etc in great shape to start, or did you prep them? What would one do about scratches, scuffs and gouges?

Congratulations- if that's anywhere near as durable as it sounds I think that's the best solution out there.
You touch on an area that I didn't give much thought, but now wish I had. IVD only coats the parts. It doesn't do anything (and isn't thick enough) to mask imperfections in the surface of the parts you are having treated. Therefore, start with parts that are not marred physically. Gouges, deep scratches, etc. will not be healed by IVD so get the parts smoothed out beforehand.

As for other prepwork, the shop I used bead blasted the parts for me, but they told me that they had to clean off more clumpy grease (especially in the right crankcase cover) than they would have liked to, so get the majority of the cleaning done first.

The name of the shop that did my parts is called Embee Coating in Santa Ana, CA. They did a great job and got it done quick.
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Post by LOUD MOUSE » Fri Sep 28, 2012 3:17 pm

And the cost is?. ....lm
rzgkane wrote:
houseowax wrote:That looks fantastic! Any idea what that'd cost if one was to, say, not have a friend with access to free IVD coating?

Were your cases/covers etc in great shape to start, or did you prep them? What would one do about scratches, scuffs and gouges?

Congratulations- if that's anywhere near as durable as it sounds I think that's the best solution out there.
You touch on an area that I didn't give much thought, but now wish I had. IVD only coats the parts. It doesn't do anything (and isn't thick enough) to mask imperfections in the surface of the parts you are having treated. Therefore, start with parts that are not marred physically. Gouges, deep scratches, etc. will not be healed by IVD so get the parts smoothed out beforehand.

As for other prepwork, the shop I used bead blasted the parts for me, but they told me that they had to clean off more clumpy grease (especially in the right crankcase cover) than they would have liked to, so get the majority of the cleaning done first.

The name of the shop that did my parts is called Embee Coating in Santa Ana, CA. They did a great job and got it done quick.

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Post by rzgkane » Fri Sep 28, 2012 3:32 pm

LOUD MOUSE wrote:And the cost is?. ....lm
rzgkane wrote:
houseowax wrote:That looks fantastic! Any idea what that'd cost if one was to, say, not have a friend with access to free IVD coating?

Were your cases/covers etc in great shape to start, or did you prep them? What would one do about scratches, scuffs and gouges?

Congratulations- if that's anywhere near as durable as it sounds I think that's the best solution out there.
You touch on an area that I didn't give much thought, but now wish I had. IVD only coats the parts. It doesn't do anything (and isn't thick enough) to mask imperfections in the surface of the parts you are having treated. Therefore, start with parts that are not marred physically. Gouges, deep scratches, etc. will not be healed by IVD so get the parts smoothed out beforehand.

As for other prepwork, the shop I used bead blasted the parts for me, but they told me that they had to clean off more clumpy grease (especially in the right crankcase cover) than they would have liked to, so get the majority of the cleaning done first.

The name of the shop that did my parts is called Embee Coating in Santa Ana, CA. They did a great job and got it done quick.
You missed the opening post. It was free to me through a friend of the owner. I didn't ask how much it would have been.
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Post by LOUD MOUSE » Fri Sep 28, 2012 3:43 pm

That I did for sure.
I'll be more than happy to ask the cost.
Do you have a phone number for the company?. ......lm

rzgkane wrote:
LOUD MOUSE wrote:And the cost is?. ....lm
rzgkane wrote:
houseowax wrote:That looks fantastic! Any idea what that'd cost if one was to, say, not have a friend with access to free IVD coating?

Were your cases/covers etc in great shape to start, or did you prep them? What would one do about scratches, scuffs and gouges?

Congratulations- if that's anywhere near as durable as it sounds I think that's the best solution out there.
You touch on an area that I didn't give much thought, but now wish I had. IVD only coats the parts. It doesn't do anything (and isn't thick enough) to mask imperfections in the surface of the parts you are having treated. Therefore, start with parts that are not marred physically. Gouges, deep scratches, etc. will not be healed by IVD so get the parts smoothed out beforehand.

As for other prepwork, the shop I used bead blasted the parts for me, but they told me that they had to clean off more clumpy grease (especially in the right crankcase cover) than they would have liked to, so get the majority of the cleaning done first.

The name of the shop that did my parts is called Embee Coating in Santa Ana, CA. They did a great job and got it done quick.
You missed the opening post. It was free to me through a friend of the owner. I didn't ask how much it would have been.

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Post by rzgkane » Fri Sep 28, 2012 3:44 pm

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LOUD MOUSE wrote:That I did for sure.
I'll be more than happy to ask the cost.
Do you have a phone number for the company?. ......lm

rzgkane wrote:
LOUD MOUSE wrote:And the cost is?. ....lm
rzgkane wrote:
houseowax wrote:That looks fantastic! Any idea what that'd cost if one was to, say, not have a friend with access to free IVD coating?

Were your cases/covers etc in great shape to start, or did you prep them? What would one do about scratches, scuffs and gouges?

Congratulations- if that's anywhere near as durable as it sounds I think that's the best solution out there.
You touch on an area that I didn't give much thought, but now wish I had. IVD only coats the parts. It doesn't do anything (and isn't thick enough) to mask imperfections in the surface of the parts you are having treated. Therefore, start with parts that are not marred physically. Gouges, deep scratches, etc. will not be healed by IVD so get the parts smoothed out beforehand.

As for other prepwork, the shop I used bead blasted the parts for me, but they told me that they had to clean off more clumpy grease (especially in the right crankcase cover) than they would have liked to, so get the majority of the cleaning done first.

The name of the shop that did my parts is called Embee Coating in Santa Ana, CA. They did a great job and got it done quick.
You missed the opening post. It was free to me through a friend of the owner. I didn't ask how much it would have been.
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