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cac
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Post by cac » Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:53 am

On my title for my CB77, the identification number is the number on the engine CB77E210415 Wouldn't they need the frame number? in my case I cant find the frame number anywhere Chris.
I'm hooked on the resto project!!!!

Gunner_CAF
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Post by Gunner_CAF » Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:51 pm

Chris,

I just took a quick look through my Honda Restoration Guide by Bill Silver. It's a great reference with detailed changes by serial number through the production years of the bike. I recommend his books.

The frame number should be on the left side of the steering head stamped on the flat. You had one reply that said it may be a Honda replacement frame if it doesn't have a number. From the factory, the engine number and the frame number were not the same. They were up to 200 different. Per Bill Silver, your engine is a 62. The range of engine numbers for 1962 are CB77E-210001-219791. The range in frame number are CB77-20001-29791.

There are several things you can look at on the frame to see if it is the correct year. The easiest to spot are the lower front fork tubes should be painted steel. The later models were silver. The picture I referred you to is mine, its a 66 with the silver lower fork tubes. There are other things like the spedo and tach style. Another good way is to remove the tank and look for a tag on the wiring harness. It should have the year printed on it. If you do have a Honda replacement frame, you may have a mix of parts and years.

I see you have another post on registration. I see your from Wisconsin too, so you may have the same problem I did. It was a challenge when I registered my bike. First, they insisted it needed a safety number that is supposed to be on the frame. They didn't start doing this until the 70s so this didn't have one. It took them a bit of research to figure this one out. I was lucky and had an old registration when my brother last had it registered in Wisconsin. They were going to make me take it to the State Patrol to have a safety check. But with the old Wisconsin registration, it wasn't necessary. The number that was used on the registration was the engine number, so I used the same number.

Gunner

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