An introduction and questions

[LOUD MOUSE]

Me too. .............lm

Well it's worth as much as someone is willing to pay for it.
I'd pay maybe 1500 for that, but I wouldn't assume that it was going to run smoothly out of the gates.

[phactory]

Is that a dream price or a realistic estimate? Are the 250's worth less, the same or more than the 305's?

With a proper carb clean, tank clean, change of all fluids, etc, it should be an easy starter. It IS a Honda after all! :-)

Thanks, Phil

Well it's worth as much as someone is willing to pay for it.
I'd pay maybe 1500 for that, but I wouldn't assume that it was going to run smoothly out of the gates.

[Gun]

It is what I said it was. What I WOULD pay for it.

I paid 1200 for my 305, which was in 'riding condition', but of course, needed (needs) extensive work before it's truly safe and good to ride, looked to be in about the same condition visually as that bike.

is the cb72 worth less than the 77?
to someone who wants to ride the bike... probably. it's 58 less cc.
to someone who wants to collect it and put it in the den. probably not. I heard less of these sold. may be worth more.

but AGAIN, it's worth as much as the person buying it is going to pay. I can't tell you what joe is going to be willing to pay for it. I can tell you averages of what i see sell... a restored superhawk to perfection can go for 3-4k on ebay. sometimes i see em go for 10k in the motor mags.
a restored cb72, maybe 2.5k maybe 3... maybe 10k.

There isnt' a set value on these guys, it's not a baseball card.

[phactory]

Gun,

I understand. It is probably much like if I was looking at a BMW twin from the 55-69 era. I have looked at and owned so many of them that I have a very discerning eye towards them and can easily remember the days when $1000.00 bought an R60/2 that would cost $5000.00 now. So I always want to pay as little as possible.

I definitely want one of these to ride. The person that owns the bike is question has about 200 bikes and is a long time Honda Dealer, so I sincerely doubt that he will let it go for $1500.00, but that is the number I will start with.

A plus with the CB72 over the CB77 is that it will easily qualify for the Moto Giro Event held here in the Northeast.

Speaking of restored Superhawks and current prices, a buddy of mine just got back from the Las Vegas auction and he said that there were a LOT of 305's out there for sale. The highest CB77 went for $7500.00 and was perfect. But a lot of other CB77's went in the $4K to $6K range.

There actually is a pretty decent book on these (and many other vintage motorcycles) bikes. If you go to the NADA page and look under Antique motorcycles, these guys have been doing their homework and have been tracking and recording sales of many vintage bikes.

For example, a 1961 CB72 Hawk Sport ranges from a fair condition price of $950.00 to an excellent condition price of $5350.00 with the same year Superhawk CB77 ranging from $950.00 to $5700.00. An interesting point is that the later bikes are listed as being worth less, with a range for a 1966 CB72 ranging from $700.00 to $4000.00.

I am sure that on the open road the difference between the CB72 and the CB77 is pretty minimal. If I can get this one for a decent price, I will probably pick it up.

Thanks for the information, Phil

It is what I said it was. What I WOULD pay for it.

I paid 1200 for my 305, which was in 'riding condition', but of course, needed (needs) extensive work before it's truly safe and good to ride, looked to be in about the same condition visually as that bike.

is the cb72 worth less than the 77?
to someone who wants to ride the bike... probably. it's 58 less cc.
to someone who wants to collect it and put it in the den. probably not. I heard less of these sold. may be worth more.

but AGAIN, it's worth as much as the person buying it is going to pay. I can't tell you what joe is going to be willing to pay for it. I can tell you averages of what i see sell... a restored superhawk to perfection can go for 3-4k on ebay. sometimes i see em go for 10k in the motor mags.
a restored cb72, maybe 2.5k maybe 3... maybe 10k.

There isnt' a set value on these guys, it's not a baseball card.

[Gun]

well i wouldn't lose patience. You could easily get that bike for 1500 in todays market. My superhawk purchase was little over a year ago.
and these bikes do exist. about a month ago i recommended a cb72 in seattle to this board that was running for 850 bucks if i recall. and one 305'er bought it.

Keep your eyes open, and be patient. also figure that if you're doing a resto, you're going to replace or restore parts that are currently "operational"... you can pretty quickly rack up a $2k tab on a resto. so you might want to hold out for a bike that really needs minimal work, unless the resto is what you're going for, I know I was.

[Loudo]

The CB72 in Seattle was $750. I bought the '63 CB77 the day before for $850 that was listed by the same seller at the same time. I also got some of the better parts of the CB72 (like the tank and front fender), also used but very nice mufflers thrown in on the deal. And a '63 Washington license plate so now I have permanent registration. This is the bike I'm working on in the Restoration thread.

Of course, I had to drive three hours each way to eastern Washington on a Friday night. The seller was getting frantic calls from places like Texas (Texas!) offering money orders and arranging for transpo, but the seller didn't cotton much to a guy who doesn't look at a vehicle before he buys. To his considerable credit, and my good fortune.

[phactory]

We like those kinds of sellers! They would rather the bike go to a good home than to just any one. I put a call into the owner of the CB72 and will have a price soon. I will keep you posted.

Thanks, Phil