I have a 67 that came with the muffler welded to the upper pipe. Runs good but I bought a parts bike that have both pipes open. I'm breaking the bike in with the muffler on but before summer is over I will change over to the straight pipes. Love the sound and look better. Besides, com paired to the Harley's out there they are not as loud and the police never say anything.
LOUD PIPES SAVES LIVES!!!
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I agree with Hotshoe and DL. I found a set of inserts at a mc salvage yard. These were new baffles and I cut them to length to give me a great straight pipe sound and a little back pressure. Just don't like the look or sound of the muffler. Straight pipes for me all the way. Rusty
David Silver recently raided someone's stock of early parts and it included some genuine Honda baffles of both types (the ones for open pipes and for the bikes with the muffler). I'm going to try them when I get my CL back together later this year.
Unfortunately, my new job has gotten in the way of bike restoration for the time being.
G
Unfortunately, my new job has gotten in the way of bike restoration for the time being.
G
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My bike came with the stock exhaust, which included the welded OEM muffler ('67 model). But somebody cut off the last inch of the muffler and gutted it, so basically, it was a straight pipe set up.
I picked up a set of pre-'67 pipes that had run Snuff-r-nots in them at one time, but were gone when I got them. I think straight pipes are way too loud for the street so I made up a set of baffles that keeps the sound of straight pipes without the volume and also keeps the clean look of straight pipes. The baffles also give you some amount of back pressure to give you a little better bottom end.
I just ran the 2-day Motogiro East with the bike this weekend and with 130 Main jets and needle set on 2nd groove from the top and everything else as original, it ran flawlessly. Bike as 15K miles on it now and I may have used a quart of oil over the 328 mile course, most of which I was running the bike hard and in the upper rev range.
Loud pipes don't save lives. Loud pipes get more restrictive laws written that prevent you from making any mods to your bike. I love the sound of a good engine and admit that nothing gets my juices flowing like the sound of an engine at revs with a wide open exhaust. But in the big picture, I'm into riding, handling and also wrenching. If making a racket and getting people to notice you is your primary object in owning and riding a motorcycle, that's your choice. But you are hurting both the sport and everyone else that rides. Give somebody an excuse to legislate and they will. It's that simple. Sorry Dave. Don't mean to pick on you. But that claim that loud pipes save lives is weak at best. Those who really believe it are going to find themselve riding bikes that are quieter than Granny's Buick if the general public gets their way.
regards,
Rob
I picked up a set of pre-'67 pipes that had run Snuff-r-nots in them at one time, but were gone when I got them. I think straight pipes are way too loud for the street so I made up a set of baffles that keeps the sound of straight pipes without the volume and also keeps the clean look of straight pipes. The baffles also give you some amount of back pressure to give you a little better bottom end.
I just ran the 2-day Motogiro East with the bike this weekend and with 130 Main jets and needle set on 2nd groove from the top and everything else as original, it ran flawlessly. Bike as 15K miles on it now and I may have used a quart of oil over the 328 mile course, most of which I was running the bike hard and in the upper rev range.
Loud pipes don't save lives. Loud pipes get more restrictive laws written that prevent you from making any mods to your bike. I love the sound of a good engine and admit that nothing gets my juices flowing like the sound of an engine at revs with a wide open exhaust. But in the big picture, I'm into riding, handling and also wrenching. If making a racket and getting people to notice you is your primary object in owning and riding a motorcycle, that's your choice. But you are hurting both the sport and everyone else that rides. Give somebody an excuse to legislate and they will. It's that simple. Sorry Dave. Don't mean to pick on you. But that claim that loud pipes save lives is weak at best. Those who really believe it are going to find themselve riding bikes that are quieter than Granny's Buick if the general public gets their way.
regards,
Rob
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Loud pipes don't save lives. Loud pipes get more restrictive laws written that prevent you from making any mods to your bike. I love the sound of a good engine and admit that nothing gets my juices flowing like the sound of an engine at revs with a wide open exhaust. But in the big picture, I'm into riding, handling and also wrenching. If making a racket and getting people to notice you is your primary object in owning and riding a motorcycle, that's your choice. But you are hurting both the sport and everyone else that rides. Give somebody an excuse to legislate and they will. It's that simple. Sorry Dave. Don't mean to pick on you. But that claim that loud pipes save lives is weak at best. Those who really believe it are going to find themselve riding bikes that are quieter than Granny's Buick if the general public gets their way.
regards,
Rob[/quote]
Well said Rob! Loud pipes are the biggest threat currently facing motorcyclists! Mostly a Look at me Harley thing, but hurting all of us as a whole. Dirt bikes keep getting quieter and quieter due to Forest Service requirements, and they also keep getting faster!
Davo
Loud pipes don't save lives. Loud pipes get more restrictive laws written that prevent you from making any mods to your bike. I love the sound of a good engine and admit that nothing gets my juices flowing like the sound of an engine at revs with a wide open exhaust. But in the big picture, I'm into riding, handling and also wrenching. If making a racket and getting people to notice you is your primary object in owning and riding a motorcycle, that's your choice. But you are hurting both the sport and everyone else that rides. Give somebody an excuse to legislate and they will. It's that simple. Sorry Dave. Don't mean to pick on you. But that claim that loud pipes save lives is weak at best. Those who really believe it are going to find themselve riding bikes that are quieter than Granny's Buick if the general public gets their way.
regards,
Rob[/quote]
Well said Rob! Loud pipes are the biggest threat currently facing motorcyclists! Mostly a Look at me Harley thing, but hurting all of us as a whole. Dirt bikes keep getting quieter and quieter due to Forest Service requirements, and they also keep getting faster!
Davo
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Dear Rob,
First my name is David not Dave. I'm from the south and take pride in the Christian spelling and pronouncing with two syllables. I'm 60 years old and got my first bike when I was 15 and have owned over 20 in my life including Harleys, two strokes and a 66 cl77 when I was 17.
The LOUD PIPES statement was used in humor. The last thing we need is someone from NY and CA trying to tell us in other parts of the country that don't have all the B---S--- laws, politicians nose pickers, whale saviors and johnny do gooders about whats right or wrong. I've been to both states several times and no thanks. I'll stay here where we can BBQ outside and not worry about pollution and
offending anyone and ride our bikes without disturbing our closest neighbor a half mile down the road.
Happy Mothers Day
First my name is David not Dave. I'm from the south and take pride in the Christian spelling and pronouncing with two syllables. I'm 60 years old and got my first bike when I was 15 and have owned over 20 in my life including Harleys, two strokes and a 66 cl77 when I was 17.
The LOUD PIPES statement was used in humor. The last thing we need is someone from NY and CA trying to tell us in other parts of the country that don't have all the B---S--- laws, politicians nose pickers, whale saviors and johnny do gooders about whats right or wrong. I've been to both states several times and no thanks. I'll stay here where we can BBQ outside and not worry about pollution and
offending anyone and ride our bikes without disturbing our closest neighbor a half mile down the road.
Happy Mothers Day
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David,
Glad to hear that you won't be re-locating to CA, we have plenty of foreigners here already! :-) I get your drift about all of the flaming liberals telling us what we can and can not do. Unfortunately, all folks number one complaint about motorcycles is the noise. Join the AMA, a far from liberal orginazation, and see what consequenses your loud pipes are having on the motorcycling community! Happy cycling!
Davo
Glad to hear that you won't be re-locating to CA, we have plenty of foreigners here already! :-) I get your drift about all of the flaming liberals telling us what we can and can not do. Unfortunately, all folks number one complaint about motorcycles is the noise. Join the AMA, a far from liberal orginazation, and see what consequenses your loud pipes are having on the motorcycling community! Happy cycling!
Davo
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63-7 CB77 Cafe'
67 CL77
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66 CL77 big bore flat tracker
Many others!