1961 C72 on eBay

[G-Man]

Pretty nicely done.....

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Very-rare-196 ... 6016.l4276

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[Tim Allman]

It's beautiful. Is that tire pump a standard item?

[G-Man]

Tim

Yes it was on the early bikes. I have two 1960 Dreams, one a US spec one and the other a UK (Domestic) version. They will both have the pump....

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[malcolmgb]

There was similar one at Hoar Park last week Graham, it was clearly a used bike with tubular bars not genuine silencers had the same style tank and a tyre pump, unfortunately I didn't get to speak to the owner.

[Tim Allman]

Sometimes I feel like I could kiss the Honda designers and other times I could kick them in the ass. The toolkit is good enough to rebuild the bike (kiss) but without a pump you are stuck on the road shoulder (kick). I suppose that cost is the prime motivator but through the period that the CB72s etc. were made the changes were sometimes improvements and sometimes cheapenings. It would be interesting to know what discussions took place among the designers at Honda and why decisions were made.

[G-Man]

There was similar one at Hoar Park last week Graham, it was clearly a used bike with tubular bars not genuine silencers had the same style tank and a tyre pump, unfortunately I didn't get to speak to the owner.

Malcolm

Need to find some time to work on the projects and get out more. Neither are going to happen anytime soon.... :-(

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[G-Man]

Tim

I think Honda rushed to market with these and the cost wasn't compatible with the price.

They had to get costs under control - for example look at the simplicity of the front forks and top end of a CB350 compared with the CB72.

In some areas they had to improve reliability. Look at the rapid changes they made to the 250 and 305 motors from '60 to 62.

Eventually they had to completely re-work the designs for a better (some may disagree) engineering package and that started with the CB160 followed by the CB250/350.

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Sometimes I feel like I could kiss the Honda designers and other times I could kick them in the ass. The toolkit is good enough to rebuild the bike (kiss) but without a pump you are stuck on the road shoulder (kick). I suppose that cost is the prime motivator but through the period that the CB72s etc. were made the changes were sometimes improvements and sometimes cheapenings. It would be interesting to know what discussions took place among the designers at Honda and why decisions were made.