My new CB77

[jensen]

Hi Steve and others,

I think we all do agree that Ed Moore knows much more then anyone on the forum, there's no question about that. I'm interested in different things, for example how the Honda engineers were thinking that time, why some engineering decisions are made, how the engine cases where made, how many production lines where there, why the engineering of the CB92 differs so much from the old dreams (dry sump), why did Honda use a primary chain for the 350 / 305 engines, but not in the CB92. How to see the technology in that time next to Lilac, Asahi, Colleda, Hirano, Itoh, Meguro, pointer and Meihatsu and many other early Japanese motorcycle company's.

Did they use the same resources from engineering point of view, is the CB72 designed by Honda, or not ? Is the CB92 designed by Honda or not ? From an engineering point of view these designs come from different planets, look at the gear boxes, primary reduction, how the cranks are made, how the engines cases are moulded, how the clutch is operated and many many more details.

I'm driven by an endless hunger for information to know more about these things. I'm studying Japanese for a year now to make it possible for me to read stuff from that time which is never translated. Like I described earlier, information is more important that the man who brings it, no matter who it is.

Call me crazy, OCD, stubborn, etc, that's ok by me, I always try to remember my own rule, that information is more important then the person. But I'm a human too, and sometimes I don't have the patience to have the tact that Loud Mouse shows so often, but I do apologize, and if I make a mistake, I'm saying sorry, it's not weak to do that.

You're also right about the fact that I don't expect from Loud mouse to bent over, and I don't expect him to say sorry or what ever. I only asked "why can't you say I was wrong ?", that doesn't implicate that I ask him to say that.

The discussion is not about knowledge any more, but other things. I also degree on you that the readers are more interested in direct info about the problems they run in too, and Ed is very experienced and knows everything you want to know when restoring a CB or a dream.

I do have collisions on this forum, with different people, and that's because my answers are not always "political correct". I had a nice time on the forum, but it ends here, it's costing me to much energy trying not to step on somebody's toes.

I would like to ask the administrator to delete my account,

However, for anyone who like to discuss about the things above, you can always email me,

Jensen

[Jonty]

I would like to thank you all for your contributions to the debate over my bike. It seems that the bike is not original as I was led to believe, but Hey-Ho no-one died. I’m sorry you feel so strongly Jensen but life is all about compromise. So to ease the tension this is my other Toy it’s a 1978 Lotus Elan S3. The color is the original blue and it was fully restored in the Netherlands. The photo was at the 2008 Le Mans classic the cup is for best display.
Thankyou jonty www.jonathangreaves.com

[jensen]

Hi Jonty,

Your bike is very nice, like I said earlier, and this has nothing to do with the discussion if it is original or not. Actually I don't care if it is original or not, you like it, and many others will like it, like myself.

Don't blame your bike for my retraction of this forum, nor you as a person.
No one is to blame in person, but like I said, it's costing to much energy not to step on somebody's toes,

jensen

[e3steve]

Nice one, again, Jonty! Where's Emma Peel? You need a knowledge of Brit '60s TV for that one!

Jensen, lighten up mate! And stick around; knowledge -- and learning -- should be fun. None of us is always right; none of us is always wrong. But we are all different and, therefore, we differ in opinion and perspective. And each of us can get cranky!

It all gets a bit too serious sometimes! Pick up teddy & climb back in the collective pram with us.

[Jonty]

Yes we all remember those kinky boots. Emma Peel car was a darker blue but I don’t think we want to go there. I also made a mistake with the year it was 1968 not 78.

[LOUD MOUSE]

Nice car ya have there Jonty.
Thanks for sharing it. ..............lm

I would like to thank you all for your contributions to the debate over my bike. It seems that the bike is not original as I was led to believe, but Hey-Ho no-one died. I’m sorry you feel so strongly Jensen but life is all about compromise. So to ease the tension this is my other Toy it’s a 1978 Lotus Elan S3. The color is the original blue and it was fully restored in the Netherlands. The photo was at the 2008 Le Mans classic the cup is for best display.
Thankyou jonty www.jonathangreaves.com

[jerry]

Dear Jensen, What you are doing is part of your journey in life. Obviously you are coming from a completely different direction to most on the Forum. It doesnt matter. I agree knowledge is hugely important. Please expand your thirst for knowledge into also underssanding people. whether it be bikes, cars, study or whatever you are involved in remember that at the end it is about the people. From one Dutchie to another stay on the Forums and learn about yourself and others. It IS more important than the bikes and the engineering. ENJOY the journey. Jerry